This is episode two. No guest. Just Ryan and me reacting to the fact that the biggest reselling podcast in the space — Trash to Cash with Dave and Kevin — just dropped a new episode and talked about us. Multiple times. Called us “competition.” That’s the thing the title’s about. We spent the first half of the episode replaying the mentions, the second half reading our own comments, and the back third building a guest wishlist and sending a live invite mid-show.

”Now you just created competition”

[1:45] Ryan shared his screen and rolled the Trash to Cash clip. Dave teed it up: “We had the face-off last week, the ultimate face-off between Kevin and Lonnie… now we have to cancel the podcast a second time. Great job, Dave.” Kevin: “Now you just created competition.”

Look — in fairness, Kevin’s not wrong. If Carey hadn’t shown up in our Christmas-party livestream chat back in December, and if he hadn’t invited me on Trash to Cash off the back of that, this podcast right here wouldn’t exist. Cheers to them. They inspired us, and they know it. Doesn’t mean we won’t take the “competition” framing and run with it for a couple of episodes.

The face-off doubled the Hairy Tornado number

[7:00] Ryan pulled up the Trash to Cash channel page and the math was right there. The Kevin-vs-Lonnie face-off episode: 10K views. The previous episode with Josh from Hairy Tornado: 5.4K. “Literally double.”

I’m not saying anything. I’m not saying anything. I’m just saying little me, little Harry — I think they were expecting a little more of a fight, but that’s all right. (For what it’s worth, Dave’s title was fantastic. The man knows what he’s doing.)

Digging for gold (the thumbnail)

[9:00] The still Dave picked for the face-off thumbnail. I don’t think he did it on purpose. Ryan thinks Kevin signed off on it. “You’re digging for gold there. Digging for gold, Lonnie.” It is on the side of my nose. It looks exactly like what you think it looks like. There’s a whole bit about an imagined group chat — “Hey Kevin, check, going to use this one because Lonnie looks like he’s picking his nose” / “didn’t see nothing hahaha” — and how there are no accidents on a podcast that big.

The follow-up bit Kevin dropped on the Trash to Cash episode was that he’s starting a fifth channel and calling it “I’m Going To Pack It.” Ryan’s response: “You should call it I’m Going To Pack It Better.” I don’t know what I’m talking about. That’s a good joke. That’s a hilarious joke.

Reading our own comments — Theo Von, Beavis, and Butthead

[15:00] Episode one had 80 comments. Ryan and I scrolled through. Highlights:

• “Damn Lonnie, when did you go on Theo Von?” — I’ve been getting this a lot lately. The other day at a checkout counter, the cashier said, “Well, if it ain’t Theo Von.” I said “Oh, hey.” What are you supposed to do.
• “Ryan is just doing videos of eating junk food while bobbing his head like Beavis and Butthead.” Ryan, immediately: “Accurate. It is actually accurate.”
• “Based on all the stories you told during this episode, I don’t expect this podcast to last long.” Maybe he’s right.
• “Kevin was your arch enemy. Good luck with your podcast.” Kevin was not my arch enemy.

That last one is the rabbit hole the rest of the episode falls down.

The Crazy Dreamers detour — viral local food, bread-stand edition

[19:00] “Pull up the Katz’s Deli one.” Ryan ran his Crazy Dreamers TikTok page in front of the camera so people who didn’t know what he does these days could see it. The Katz’s Deli pastrami review went a million on TikTok, a million on Instagram, viral on Facebook — a million on three platforms.

Then he pivoted to the local stuff he’s been doing the last few months — including a bread stand a woman runs out of a box at the end of her driveway in his small town, open Saturdays at 8 a.m. until she sells out. His video on it did 40K views on TikTok. “40K on TikTok is not really that big of a deal. But for the local scene, it is.” She had emails from across the country asking if she shipped. People showed up at her house all week, even though she wasn’t open. Ryan’s framing: “It actually does some good in the world. So I like doing that.”

I asked if this was his end-game path. He said no — it’s a stepping stone for something else. He wouldn’t tell me what. We ended up on a longer thread about whether you should ever tell people your next move at all.

”You got to be a doer not a sayer”

[26:45] The honest version of that thread: “I’ve been guilty in the past — Oh, I’m going to do this or I’m going to do that or I have this great idea. The talking about doing it a lot of times seems to satisfy my urge to do it.” That’s the trap. You talk it out, you get the dopamine, you don’t ship the thing. Ryan’s call: “You got to be a doer not a sayer.”

The other reason not to telegraph: if it doesn’t happen, you look like the guy who said it would. Either keep it to one person you trust, or make the move strong enough it can withstand somebody trying to copy it at the last second. Worth listening to even if you don’t run a podcast.

The wishlist (and the live invite)

[33:45] The order Ryan and I worked out for inviting the Trash to Cash guys onto our show, one at a time: Carey first (he’s the one who invited me onto theirs — going around him would be a stab in the back), Dave second (he can take a roast), Kevin last to build suspense. Stretch picks after that: Hairy Tornado (Ryan thinks he’d come on), Pete, Amber Resells, and Cincinnati Packer John — though for John, “I can’t just message him cold and say hey, you want to come do a show. Dude, we haven’t talked in two years. Got to take him out on a date first.”

One ground rule we set for if Dave comes on: “This is a 3D-print-free zone. No 3D printing, Dave.” He’d bury the channel before it gets off the ground. (On a personal level, I’d love to talk to him about his printer setup. Just not on the mic.)

[47:00] Then I noticed Carey had messaged me on Facebook a few days ago and I never saw it. So I sent him a voice message back, mid-podcast, recording it as I went: “Hey Carey, I’m recording this voice message — it’s actually going on our next podcast. You are hereby officially invited to be on the Lonnie and Ryan podcast if you would like to join us.” Sent the screenshot. Sent our wishlist. He saw the text. Hadn’t opened the voice yet by the time we wrapped. Fingers crossed.

Closer

A 50-minute episode that exists because somebody else’s podcast talked about us, and we were honest enough on camera to admit that’s most of why we recorded it. “If we had a thousand dollars in our hand and we wanted to promote our podcast, we couldn’t have bought better advertising than what those guys did.”

Trash to Cash crew — if y’all are reading: appreciate you. Carey, check your DMs. And to everybody else: if you watched this and felt like timestamping every Trash to Cash mention and sending it over to them, I’m not going to stop you.

We’ll see y’all on the next one.

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