Episode eight. Special format. Ryan and I both dragged our wives onto the podcast — Candice on my side, Pam on Ryan’s — and turned the show into a four-way for a night. Heads up before you click in: the internet was a disaster the entire episode. Pam was on the East Coast in the back half of a blizzard, our connection lagged by a full second most of the time, the screens froze every couple of minutes, and at one point we were both just sitting on a black screen wondering if we were still live. The video description owns it; I’ll own it here too. Sorry about the technical hiccups, hope it’s not too bad.

Hectic as it was, this is one of the funnier episodes we’ve put out. Here’s what to jump to.

”I’d like to meet Lonnie. I only know Leonard.”

[0:42] First thing Pam said when I asked her what she thought of the show name. “I’d like to meet Lonnie. I only know Leonard.” This is the running bit on Ryan’s side of the family — Pam and the little man have called me Uncle Leonard from day one, which is also where the Life of Leonard channel name came from. Pam coined it. I built a whole channel around the nickname. Ryan was a dedicated Life of Leonard watcher. Catch this one early because the Leonard jokes don’t stop for the rest of the episode.

Candice catches me sneaking AI

[2:06] Pam mentioned offhand that she was playing around with AI and Candice immediately went “Lonnie’s not a fan of AI images,” and then — “that’s what he says, but he sneaks and uses it when he don’t think anybody’s watching.”

I had no idea where she was going. She made me guess. Starts with an M. I had a small heart attack on camera trying to figure out what M-word my wife was about to drop in front of Pam. The answer was Meshy — AI software for 3D printing that I subscribed to, used once, didn’t like, and unsubscribed from. Caught and exonerated in the same minute. Full disclosure: I don’t put AI images in the videos and I’m not going to. Meshy was a 3D-printing experiment that didn’t go anywhere.

The actual title question (thanks, Rev)

[12:05] Rev Resale was watching live and dropped the question that became the episode title: “What beef do the wives have with Lonnie?”

Pam answered first. She said she didn’t have beef with me — “I probably have more beef with his time management, and just so happens to deal with you.” And then a beat later: “I feel like you’re the misses and I’m just the maid.” Ryan took a long sip of his drink right then.

It’s funny and it’s also accurate. Ryan and I are on the phone or on chat constantly — “Leonard in my kitchen all the time,” Pam said. She wasn’t wrong about it being often, but she was nice about what we’re actually talking about (business stuff, mostly). Rev, you opened up a can of worms. We’re keeping the can.

Pam admits the voice thing

[15:40] Then it pivoted. Pam, after laying out the time-management beef, said the part she wasn’t planning to say: “I actually like — your voice is comforting. Like, it’s a — never mind, stop.”

Candice agreed, said she’s used to it. The whole thing devolved into Ryan re-naming me Leonard Honeycomb on the spot, which I am refusing to accept on principle. But I will take the voice compliment. Twenty-four years of marriage and Candice is still ahead of Pam on the say-it-out-loud scoreboard, but Pam’s working on it (see 42:21 below).

Reseller Rally — both wives are coming

[23:57] I asked the inner circle who’s coming to the Reseller Rally in September. Pam is going this time — she missed 2021 because she was pregnant and let Ryan come down to Cincinnati without her. Candice is going. Mary is going. Rev is “debating,” which Ryan correctly translated as “going.”

Pam’s mission for the Rally: find the guy at the last one who looked exactly like Ryan, the one strangers kept walking up to thinking he was Ryan’s channel. “I just want to find him in a crowd and randomly link arms with them and be like, hi. I’m the wife everyone asked you about.” If anyone in the inner circle knows that guy’s name, drop it in the comments — Pam still hasn’t gotten the satisfaction.

Pippen, the cat, and the $10,000 eye

[30:10] Pippen check-in. He just had his year follow-up at the eye specialist and he’s doing great. The unsaid part on the live: $10,000 later he should be doing pretty good. Insurance covered it; we paid 10%. If we hadn’t bought pet insurance back when we did, he’d be blind right now. Worth saying out loud for anyone debating whether to bother with a pet plan — the day we needed it, we needed it.

We also have a diabetic cat now. So Candice is doing morning-and-night insulin shots on both the dog and the cat. Pippen walks over and puts his head down on his own. The cat bites her. Lonnie does it sometimes. “If all other possibilities — no one else, you’ll do it,” Pam translated. Accurate.

How each couple met

[34:59] Reel asked how each couple met. Both stories involve a boat, which neither of us realized until that moment.

Ryan and Pam met on a cruise — through a chain of mutuals, a buddy’s dad who was with Pam’s aunt, all of them on the same ship. Candice and I met working as casino dealers on an old paddle-wheel river boat. Eighteen years total in the casino business, both of us starting at 21. Once we got married we couldn’t work the same shift — I was on a supervisor schedule — so we rarely saw each other. The hours were terrible, the money was good, and you’re around alcohol and people losing money all night. We got out, got married, started YouTube, and that’s where the throughline picks up.

”Did you ever say I love you yet?”

[42:21] Ryan asked who said I love you first in our relationships. Candice and I, easy — that one’s been settled for a while. Then Ryan turned to Pam and asked if she had ever said it to him yet. Pam: “I’m working up to it.”

Twenty-four years and two kids in. “I’m very guarded,” Ryan said. The room — the four squares of the room, on a one-second delay — fell apart. Anniversary was the week before this episode. They’ll get there.

The dime-vs-quarter pound

[46:30] Trivia I dropped on the table after the chat got us talking about pennies going away: a pound of dimes and a pound of quarters are worth the same amount of money. A quarter weighs about two and a half times what a dime weighs, and it’s worth two and a half times more — the math cancels out. Mary McQuain also pointed out the JFK 50-cent piece is on its way out next.

Half the table guessed dimes. Pam said dimes are cuter. The little man rolled off the bed in the middle of the answer. Move on.

Wrap

[49:46] “I think it’s about time to call it. It’s getting a little hectic here.” The little man was banging on the door. Ryan called the episode a train wreck. Honestly, for the format, it worked. Candice and Pam don’t have beef. Ryan and I do talk too much. Pam’s working up to it. Pippen is fine.

Back to the regular two-host format next week. Subscribe to Ryan and Pam on Pam’s side, Shed Flips on ours, and we’ll see y’all in the next one.

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